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English Warrior · Jun 04, 2008, 09:28 AM // 09:28

my feeling is that ectos will drop to 4.6k then go to 5.5k and to 6k and back down and up again it will and always will.
Also who sells them to rare material trade sell them to players then it doesn't drop the price.

BlackSephir · Jun 04, 2008, 09:35 AM // 09:35

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Originally Posted by Airstu

Waves of W/Rt's have been replaced by A/E - switching one never fail build for another.

W/rts whine cause they got replaced.
Also, lolwut, what economy?

mwaddoups · Jun 04, 2008, 09:46 AM // 09:46

As far as 95% of people would care, the economy is doing fine. In many mmo's, the economy is considered as doing badly when prices go up (usually caused by gold buyers, etc.)! What is so wrong with more of the average people having access to FOW armor and chaos gloves - the elitists can still have their titles, whereas your average GW player may have a chance to see more of the game, and try more of it. I think arenanet made a good decision in doing this - you'll get the annoyed people who paid 100k+1500e+75 armbraces for an eternal blade when it first came out, but now if people want one of those swords, they can work for it and get the money in a month (if a casual player) or a week (if not). But the economy is by no means being destroyed.

t00115577 · Jun 04, 2008, 09:58 AM // 09:58

Why moan about it, just jump on the gimik bandwagon and farm them aswell, otherwise please go QQ more and let us A/E at it haha. Go 55 or something rofl

Aldric · Jun 04, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02

Well there's a surprise , another Dying Economy melodrama thread.

Why are low prices so bad ? Explain that to me plz ?

Also on the point you made , Ectos will not drop much in price in my view. Farming them is already easy enough with a number of builds and a SF update will probably just let you kill things 0.2356 sec faster than your Rt/ or E/ or W/ build you've been using for god knows how long.

Grj · Jun 04, 2008, 10:45 AM // 10:45

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0277528&page=2

A topic on the disscussion on the fastest UW clears on HM, you seem to have no problem clearing.

Ok, i'm going to call you out on this. All this is about is the fact that the sin can now farm faster and better then your terra tank.

oh btw your terra is hurting the ecomony just as much as a SF sin is, and its just as easy and "lame".

This topic is rife with a disgruntled farmer with an hidden agenda, dont claim you care about the economy.

ogre_jd · Jun 04, 2008, 10:52 AM // 10:52

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Originally Posted by Aldric

Well there's a surprise , another Dying Economy melodrama thread.

Why are low prices so bad ? Explain that to me plz ?

Because some peoples' egos and e-penises rely on big numbers when they sell stuff. And because there are others with the "I have this shiny rare thing and you don't, therefore I'm better than you, n00b!" attitude.

The only people it's actually bad for, and who we should feel a bit of sympathy for, are those who saved long and hard (so non-farmers) for something special that they had been wanting (to have and use, not resell) and got it just a couple of days before something happened to cause a sharp drop in prices. But, unless they actually fall into the first two categories, they'll get over it quickly and go back to enjoying their new item.

cataphract · Jun 04, 2008, 10:56 AM // 10:56

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Originally Posted by Shawn The Divine

...so?
Why is that bad?

Because even more people will run around in ugly armors, wearing even uglier gloves?

Sjeng · Jun 04, 2008, 11:01 AM // 11:01

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Originally Posted by Grj

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0277528&page=2

A topic on the disscussion on the fastest UW clears on HM, you seem to have no problem clearing.

Ok, i'm going to call you out on this. All this is about is the fact that the sin can now farm faster and better then your terra tank.

oh btw your terra is hurting the ecomony just as much as a SF sin is, and its just as easy and "lame".

This topic is rife with a disgruntled farmer with an hidden agenda, dont claim you care about the economy.

HAHA way to go dude! I love it when people do research before they reply. GG! *hands cookie*

ontopic: I like the fact that PvE is now becoming more fun. People have the opportunity to do more with their characters. New cool builds are devised, which imo makes PvE more fun. Who cares if ectos get overfarmed? So more people can afford more stuff? Another thing that can make the game more enjoyable for the average PvE player. Anet did good! (besides, the economy was always a topic of discussion. It's a GAME people, who cares about it's economy?)

<3 A/E <3 Ursan <3 all that stuff!

mystical nessAL · Jun 04, 2008, 11:03 AM // 11:03

You have some point there, but it'll still take alot of time, as peoples will see it's easier to farm ectos, more peoples will need ectos too.

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Ps: sry again for my bad english i hope all have understood what i want to say

Your english is fine, it was understandable and couldn't notice any major problem...

Longasc · Jun 04, 2008, 12:22 PM // 12:22

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Originally Posted by Yichi

Honestly, who cares anymore... Theres so much shit wrong with this game atm that its hard to find anything going right.

Yup. Even if people would still bother to complain, the list is so long that people have a hard time to decide where to start.

A Leprechaun · Jun 04, 2008, 01:01 PM // 13:01

I personally hope they don't nerf Shadow Form, I am totally bored of GW atm and if I can get what I want to buy in a relatively short amount of time then I am happy, I don't care if ecto price drops, it just means that FoW will be easier to get which I think is a good thing.

~A Leprechaun~

Also all the buff to SF means is that the newer players and the players with less time on there hands get get some money, the "pro" farmers have always had loads of ectos and money, now everyone can.

Abedeus · Jun 04, 2008, 01:20 PM // 13:20

Agree with Leprechaun. I don't farm too much, and since I never get ecto (it's countable or not? ;d) in UW, I will probably farm in Tombs a bit. At least I'll get 2k in 15 minutes, relog and yay.

Jetdoc · Jun 04, 2008, 01:45 PM // 13:45

I hate to say this, but the OP is right in that the continued buffing of PvE skills combined with the continued thinning of the playerbase will cause ecto prices to go down. Why? Supply will outpace demand.

Honestly, I really don't care whether prices continue to fall, but logically this makes sense. It wouldn't surprise me to see ectos fall to the sub-4K range in the next few months.

Kurenai Fire Sensei · Jun 04, 2008, 01:46 PM // 13:46

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Originally Posted by Grj

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0277528&page=2

A topic on the disscussion on the fastest UW clears on HM, you seem to have no problem clearing.

Ok, i'm going to call you out on this. All this is about is the fact that the sin can now farm faster and better then your terra tank.

oh btw your terra is hurting the ecomony just as much as a SF sin is, and its just as easy and "lame".

This topic is rife with a disgruntled farmer with an hidden agenda, dont claim you care about the economy.

-.- i do uw clears just for fun and my team is only trying to put the 2 terras uw clear under 30 mins (34 now whitout assa). We do 1-2 uw clears at day so we dont hurt anything because everyone get 2-8e/day.

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Originally Posted by Grj

All this is about is the fact that the sin can now farm faster and better then your terra tank.

sure?

Ctb · Jun 04, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53

Hasn't every single change ever made to the game from the very beginning destroyed the economy already, not to mention the economies of some small, developing nations and a few economies in alternate universes?

Cripes... every ****ing change in this game has destroyed the economy if you listen to enough different people around here. Newsflash: there never was any economy because almost everything that drops in GW is trash and just gets merched. Maybe this change will make it so YOU can't get as much money, but this isn't destroying the economy, just like none of the other 56,329 changes that produced "zomg this will destroy the economy!" threads have destroyed the "economy".

Quit posting these stupid threads. Every time the wind changes direction someone posts a thread about the non-existent Guild Wars "economy" is being destroyed...

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Don't like the way gw is going? Go play wow.

I did...

The Way Out · Jun 04, 2008, 01:55 PM // 13:55

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Originally Posted by Woop Shotty

50 ectos per day? Damn! Are you hooked up to an IV and colostamy bag?

Are you? Farming ecto is easy as hell. It is why I /laugh at everyone who is poor. Funny thing is I only do the runs to get an eternal blade.... ecto is just an added benefit.

btw... best UW HM time is 29 minutes. FTW!!!

Ctb · Jun 04, 2008, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Are you? Farming ecto is easy as hell. It is why I /laugh at everyone who is poor. Funny thing is I only do the runs to get an eternal blade.... ecto is just an added benefit.

I laugh at the people who have the spare time to sit in front of the computer clicking the same icons again and again long enough to make 50/e per day. We could start a comedy club together.

Just for kicks and giggles, I calculated it. Based on my current ecto stash and the time it took me to get them, I'd have to play for over 15 hours to get 50 ectos.

Maybe you know some magical place where the drop rate is substantially higher, but I don't have 15 free hours a day to repetitively click icons in a video game. Even if I didn't have a job I wouldn't.

Edit: actually, that's not true. That's using my combined drop rate for shards and ectos and I get much worse drop rates on shards, so it's probably more like 10 hours a day, which is still well high enough for me to mock you.

Dylananimus · Jun 04, 2008, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

it looks kinda overpowered now
the farm is just too easy and very profitable
i'm scared that the ecto will end up as the onyx gemstone
for those who do not know about the onyx gemstone
when eotn came out i think the onyx was about 5k, now it's just merely 1k

if the permasin doesn't get nerfed, i hope the droprates will

You can't really compare anything to Onyx. Of course when Onyx was new it cost more - but then eventually more people bought and played GWEN, therefore getting more Onyx and driving the price down. It's like trying to compare Ecto to Brown dye. When Brown dye was first introduced it was selling for stupid amounts...now look at it

Thing is, Onyx was never a trading commodity, but Ecto is. People buy Ecto from the traders as a way to pay for high(er) end stuff - cos contrary to popular belief not everybody farms the UW when they could actually be playing the game instead

As long as people keep buying from the trader then the price will bob around the same mark. I doubt we'll ever see a drop as far as from the days it cos over 10k.

When it cost over 10k not as many people played, and not as many farmed (not only Ectos, but all those shiny weapons too)...so of course it was higher. The game is now 3 years older, and people have more money - and stashes of Ecto they already farmed or bought - so they don't need to necessarily buy all their Ectos from the trader so they can trade for things. That's why it's dropped so much. People have more money over all and have for quite some time now.

Will it drop dramatically again? Highly doubtful as they're are more things in-game (minis, keys, stuff for titles) to buy...with Ecto bought from the trader (for those people that don't farm the UW). And people don't generally sell them back to the trader, so it won't drive his price down any.

That's the way I see it anyways, no need to flame if you feel the need, we all have different opinions

Moloch Vein · Jun 04, 2008, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by Tyla

The economy is already dead to be honest, and they don't care about PvE.

If they are to nerf this, they would also hit Ursan, SY, TNTF, ERenewal and Soul Reaping.

It is dishonest to name these things in the same sentence. Soul Reaping exists in PvP with no major problems these days. Try making Ursan and SY PvP skills or allowing un-nerfed Ether Renewal in PvP.